I’m with psmit – raise the seat just a tiny bit – 1 cm and see if it feels better. I know my seat is still not right because my left knee hurts after a long run. Working on it but all you can do (short of finding a REAL fit expert) is change things little by little and work on your pedal stroke.

So how do you ride with your heel down like that on rollers? You need to hang on to the wall and do 1 leg drills to get your stroke right. Or you could get a cheap stationary trainer.

Jamie, I think you misread my tone. I was saying exactly what you are trying to say…the ‘rules’ don’t work for many many riders. Unfortunately many of the ‘pro’ fitters are just schmoos in a shop who only know what they were taught by their flagship manufacturer.

A real ‘pro’ fitter is one that uses many different methods to get to a solid base position and then works from there based on your input…not by dropping plumb bobs everytime you get on the bike. We’re saying the same thing, but I want to make sure people understand that just because someone works in a shop does NOT make them remotely qualified to give fit advice. Not all ‘fitters’ are created equal.

In general if it hurts then something is wrong.

I like the crank length question. Luckily with Shimano’s newer offerings you can readily find 165mm cranks. Susan as you put on mileage try to see if your hip joints gets sore/aggravated towards the end of longer rides. If so it could be an indication that your cranks are too long…..

….but just start with good saddle placement. The rest (stem, bars, cranks, etc) falls into place easier. Just keep in mind that the 3 contact points between rider and machine do NOT have solid scientific solutions that help everyone find the answer to their fit questions. Those contact points have to be worked out by trial and error on a rider by rider basis.

I know nothing baout running, but I am sure there are probably 20 different schools of thought about the proper body mechanics of running, and shoe design. All of them are nice for entertainment, but in the end the one that is right is the one that actually works for you in application.

That is all.

Also, don’t listen to anything the internet people have to say. (Including me) Videos and pics don’t say a damn thing about your comfort and flexibility, which are just as important as anything else when fitting.

Psimet can put you in a perfect position, but it may not be comfortable, so there is no point. Get it checked out by a real pro. In person.

Actually, it doesn’t look too bad. Your heel is down, so if it were up there’d be a slight bend at the knee. I’m thinking maybe your cranks are too long, which might be bringing your knee up too high when it’s in the up position. Ask Psimet, Betty or Chef about this. I’m just a runner.

Also wondering what you consider to be a “certified bike fit expert”? Under what system or school of thought? Serotta? Specialized? Andy Pruitt’s? Fit Kit? Retul? There is no scientific solution to fit. If there was then there would also be a scientifically perfect saddle or pair of bibs. Achieving the right fit – if you can’t do it yourself – involves establishing a relationship with someone who will listen to your needs, address your fitness and flexibility limitations, etc.

Last time I saw a “fit expert” get ahold of an advanced cyclist I saw them lose 1/2 a season to stress related injuries caused by the fit changes.

Sorry about the rant, but I just get peeved when people fail to see that most of the people working on fits are simply entry level retail sales people that have only been exposed to one school of thought…the one they sell.

Watched the video…you saddle is too low. Not by much, but it needs to move up. You can see it just as you pedal away after passing the camera. Hard to tell fore-aft without seeing you in person. If you don’t want to raise your saddle then slide it back a bit to help compensate.

oh, and i’m 2 hours from winning (i hope) my new 3-speed electra on ebay. oooh, three whole speeds! and streamers. should i get rollers for it?