I kinda sorta need to do something for 3 or 4 hours tomorrow. I have a feeling that that something should be running at least 18-20 miles, but I’m thinking maybe a bike ride would do? Same benefits or no?
I disagree. The benefits are different – and they are good. It depends on how your legs are feeling. You just did a 20K, right? So ride! Then go on a long run on Tuesday.
Agree with Kelly, sorry pal. Biking does not make you a better running. If it did I would have qualified and won Boston 10 times, instead of bonking at my last race.
There is a good reason that professional triathletes are not the best in any individual event even though they are quite excellent athletes — cross-training isn’t the same as training for your event.
Cardiovascular benefits would be about the same but as far as muscles and endurance? Not the same really. It shouldn’t hurt you to ride if you need a day off from running but it’s not going to benefit a discernible amount.
I’m gonna go with those who say there’s a benefit…but, it’s a different benefit than running would be, so it depends on what your goal is. Also gotta agree with Psimet…three hours on a bike? I can’t even imagine…
Biking on a high cadence for over an hour, sometimes two, and trying to keep the heart rate high (above 80%), did transfer to my leg turnover when running.
It seems better to go biking rather than run 18-20 miles after a 20k, if you ask me. Bike 2 hours, then rest your legs and twitter 2 hours.
If you are to get in 18-20 miles of hitting the pavement, than that is probably what you should doing. Biking for that length would be a great workout and such, but it is working different muscles.
Depends on what ou are trying to do. If you are not trying to train for a marathon, I’d say it’s good cross training.But if you want to run, you need to run. Ya know? Sort of like, if you want to run faster, you have to run faster in training. It is wht it is…
Biking is great cross training though. Unless you have ITB issues.
Also, running back to back or close together hard runs helps your legs feel what it’s like to run on tired legs, which is usually at the end of the marathon. When you get tired in the marathon at say, mile 18, you can’t just hop on a bike cause you’re tired.
You could walk the rest of the way.
Depends on what you are trying to achieve.
But never ever compromise your long runs.
That bike looks pretty lonely. It could use a friend. Ride it for a few hours and see how you feel. Then go get yourself a bottle of Layer Cake Primitivo. You’ll feel much better.
aka Alice…nothing wrong with riding for 3 hours at all. Just couldn’t imagine doing it on that particualr saddle. Too big and cushy for serious riding.
I am routinely in the saddle for about 5 hrs during centuries. 9-10 hrs for the big rides I have each year. Anything under 3 hrs is not even enough time to warmup it seems like anymore.
Funny . Everyone is an ‘expert’ on this subject.
But only for themselves.
If you are sick, sick sick of running.
Ride.
And STILL get in that long run before the race.
My high cadence used in mtn. bike rides DEFINITELY carries over. For me.
P.S. Riding helps balance out muscles overworked from running.
I know. I am an “expert” on this. HA!
I would only ride the bike tomorrow if you plan on riding it in Chicago.
I disagree. The benefits are different – and they are good. It depends on how your legs are feeling. You just did a 20K, right? So ride! Then go on a long run on Tuesday.
Agree with Kelly, sorry pal. Biking does not make you a better running. If it did I would have qualified and won Boston 10 times, instead of bonking at my last race.
If only you knew someone with cycling expertise.
3 or 4 hours? A nap works for me.
There is a good reason that professional triathletes are not the best in any individual event even though they are quite excellent athletes — cross-training isn’t the same as training for your event.
Cardiovascular benefits would be about the same but as far as muscles and endurance? Not the same really. It shouldn’t hurt you to ride if you need a day off from running but it’s not going to benefit a discernible amount.
Why run 18-20 miles so soon after a 20K?
Nice shot. New rig? Big ring small cog next time.
Real pedals, real shoes too I assume. I like where this is going.
3hrs on that saddle though will have you wishing for running shorts with razor blades in them instead though….
I’m gonna go with those who say there’s a benefit…but, it’s a different benefit than running would be, so it depends on what your goal is. Also gotta agree with Psimet…three hours on a bike? I can’t even imagine…
Biking on a high cadence for over an hour, sometimes two, and trying to keep the heart rate high (above 80%), did transfer to my leg turnover when running.
It seems better to go biking rather than run 18-20 miles after a 20k, if you ask me. Bike 2 hours, then rest your legs and twitter 2 hours.
Go whit the bike!.
Groet Rinus.
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You raced 20k yesterday! An easy hour or two on the bike would be more than enough.
If you are to get in 18-20 miles of hitting the pavement, than that is probably what you should doing. Biking for that length would be a great workout and such, but it is working different muscles.
Definitely no. The benefits of a long run can’t be replaced. Every heard the word specificity?
Actually, a long run on already tired legs is fantastic marathon training. Believe me, I’ve tried.
Depends on what ou are trying to do. If you are not trying to train for a marathon, I’d say it’s good cross training.But if you want to run, you need to run. Ya know? Sort of like, if you want to run faster, you have to run faster in training. It is wht it is…
Biking is great cross training though. Unless you have ITB issues.
Also, running back to back or close together hard runs helps your legs feel what it’s like to run on tired legs, which is usually at the end of the marathon. When you get tired in the marathon at say, mile 18, you can’t just hop on a bike cause you’re tired.
You could walk the rest of the way.
Depends on what you are trying to achieve.
But never ever compromise your long runs.
YMMV…
That bike looks pretty lonely. It could use a friend. Ride it for a few hours and see how you feel. Then go get yourself a bottle of Layer Cake Primitivo. You’ll feel much better.
I hope you rode…or are riding now…
If not, baby Jesus will cry.
aka Alice…nothing wrong with riding for 3 hours at all. Just couldn’t imagine doing it on that particualr saddle. Too big and cushy for serious riding.
I am routinely in the saddle for about 5 hrs during centuries. 9-10 hrs for the big rides I have each year. Anything under 3 hrs is not even enough time to warmup it seems like anymore.
Please don’t make baby Jesus cry…
Funny . Everyone is an ‘expert’ on this subject.
But only for themselves.
If you are sick, sick sick of running.
Ride.
And STILL get in that long run before the race.
My high cadence used in mtn. bike rides DEFINITELY carries over. For me.
P.S. Riding helps balance out muscles overworked from running.
I know. I am an “expert” on this. HA!
ha ha ha ha ha
3 hours? on the bike? that you are just learning to ride? let me know how that goes!:)
of course i’m an expert! i’ve had a bike since MARCH for god’s sake.
don’t back off running just yet. you’re too close to glory in chicago!
Fancy!